This is a question concerning RoC
How do you beat undead with mass fiends + lich + dk as night elf?
I went archers first, then tech for drayds and did some hit and runs with a few archer and mass drayds. It seemed impossible to go for bear (too long tech), so what should i have done?
Thnx,
T|||I havent played NE long time and ROC either.I dunno but lots Claive throwers are best i think.They cheap and easy to get.The attacks are good too.|||Glaives suck against anything, don't bother. And dryads are countered by fiends, so don't bother with them either.|||Yeah, dryads are suicide against fiends. What about a combo of mass archers, hunts, and possibly a few Dots?|||ballistas are tier 2... well... mass fiends + dk + lich is easily counterable by mass master dotts. If enemy goes ghoul + dl ( later garg + lich + dk) best counter is Alt-Q-Q.|||Quote:
ballistas are tier 2... well... mass fiends + dk + lich is easily counterable by mass master dotts.
HI DESTROS.|||Hi Roc..........|||Oh, ok. Sry I forgot taht.|||Oh... ithomas... don't go bears in RoC, they suck and they are pwned by fiends badly. Good strategy vs fiends is archers + kotg (entangle) or archers + potm it can give you advantage until enemy gets lich, in that moment press Alt-Q-Q.|||Quote:
Oh, ok. Sry I forgot taht.
lol owned...
EDIT: Oh and btw, you should have no problem teching to bears...|||lolololol stenar hax joo! ^^|||SteniS - in RoC bears get +50% from piercing (fiends)|||Counter: Buy TFT.
Seriously, it's like thirty cents by now.|||i just love the classic RoC (but i have TFT in fact, i just never play it - it came together in one battlepack)
thnx for feedback all - i'll go for mass archer and keep the ALT QQ in mind :p
in general UD seem to be my worst opponents as NE|||counter: play orc noogs.
|||Quote:i just love the classic RoC (but i have TFT in fact, i just never play it - it came together in one battlepack)
thnx for feedback all - i'll go for mass archer and keep the ALT QQ in mind :p
in general UD seem to be my worst opponents as NE
Well... it should be your worst matchup. What level are you? Low-level guys go mass fiends and this is easy to counter. If you meet >20 then its 100% ghoul-garg|||i dont play much ladder games (only lvl 9 so far), more customs.
the undead opponents were of both -20 and +20 level - they truely are my hardest match up.
but i will focus more on what i said above and try mass arch + dotts - i've seen some nice replays of NE owning UD armies thnx to dott (cyclone)|||Wand of Negation is a must if enemy gets Anti-Magic Shell...|||i've seen a good replay of NE vs UD (NE was draakki)
he went mass arch first for creep / then tech to T2 and get dual AOWind for dotts - archer & dotts for a while with DH and KotG - tech3 for cyclone master training
after a while and some hit and runs, he massed drayds and dotts with cyclone - and won vs the UD with mass fiends DL DK
i know this is kinda exceptional to get dual aowinf and dual AOLore - but it was on legends and game took 34min.
Think in future i'll go for mass arch and dotts (cyclone included) + DH
thnx for feedback jacek|||Quote:
i've seen a good replay of NE vs UD (NE was draakki)
he went mass arch first for creep / then tech to T2 and get dual AOWind for dotts - archer & dotts for a while with DH and KotG - tech3 for cyclone master training
after a while and some hit and runs, he massed drayds and dotts with cyclone - and won vs the UD with mass fiends DL DK
i know this is kinda exceptional to get dual aowinf and dual AOLore - but it was on legends and game took 34min.
Think in future i'll go for mass arch and dotts (cyclone included) + DH
thnx for feedback jacek
1) This is how you should play
2) This is draakki he was #2 solo ranked
3) mass fiends + dl = suxXx lich pwnz|||question: why is the lich so important with mass fiends?|||Well... think - archers 260 hp, dott approx. 350 hp. Nova takes 150 hp on lvl 5, normally you should meet ud with lich lvl 3 so 100 hp. 2 novas and archers are one-shot-kill. And they are slowed badly so can't run.|||ok, this is RoC
Is there any possible way for NE to win from UD? :p
mass gnouls owns my arch and huntz (even if i add in drayds)
mass fiends pwnz the **** out of me
gnoul then gargs win easily from my arch/hyppos
i've checked a lot of replays and i think i should go play undead as well :p
mass fiends gg
mass gnouls gg
gnoul/garg gg
they are so ****in imba (in roc, dunno in ft)
is this wrong thinking, or are they really that good?|||Yes they are imba... only problems you can have is mirror and good orc players...|||What's a gnoul...?|||ghoul + gnoll the genetical mutation, you know...
he meant ghoul|||Quote:
ok, this is RoC
Is there any possible way for NE to win from UD? :p
mass gnouls owns my arch and huntz (even if i add in drayds)
mass fiends pwnz the **** out of me
gnoul then gargs win easily from my arch/hyppos
i've checked a lot of replays and i think i should go play undead as well :p
mass fiends gg
mass gnouls gg
gnoul/garg gg
they are so ****in imba (in roc, dunno in ft)
is this wrong thinking, or are they really that good?
30 food worth of hunts, archers and dryad supported by potm and or dh should beat 30 food worth of fiends-ghouls and dk.|||drayds vs fiends?
wasnt that useless?|||I'm not sure about RoC, but in TFT, yes.|||well...socal... fight is equal as long as ud doesn't get 3/2 coil/nova
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